Julie Albert — Direct

MR. LALLY: Thank you, Your Honor.

MR. LALLY: Good morning, ma’am.

MR. LALLY: Could you please state your name and spell your last name for the jury?

MR. LALLY: And where do you live, ma’am?

MR. LALLY: And how long have you lived there?

MR. LALLY: And how long in total have you lived in Canton?

MR. LALLY: And where did you live just prior to living on Maple?

MR. LALLY: And how long a period of time did you live at 7 Meadows Ave.?

MR. LALLY: And do you have kids?

MR. LALLY: And are you married?

MR. LALLY: And what’s your husband’s name?

MR. LALLY: And your three boys, how old are they?

MR. LALLY: And do each of them -- where do they live? Do they live with you?

MR. LALLY: And your husband, does he work?

MR. LALLY: What does he do for work?

MR. LALLY: And what’s the name of the restaurant?

MR. LALLY: And where is that located?

MR. LALLY: Now, when you lived on Meadows Avenue, can you describe for the jury sort of -- if you know, about how many houses are on Meadows?

MR. LALLY: And Meadows comes out to a main road; is that correct?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And while you were living on Meadows Avenue did you have occasion to come to know someone by the name of John O’ Keefe?

MR. LALLY: And where did John live in relation to you?

MR. LALLY: And, if you recall, about how long had you known John O’Keefe or when did he move into Meadows?

MR. LALLY: And how would you describe sort of your relationship with John O’ Keefe?

MR. LALLY: And, in addition to you knowing Mr. O’ Keefe, were there other sort of people that you knew that also knew him?

MR. LALLY: And who were some of those people?

MR. LALLY: And who is Jennifer McCabe to you?

MR. LALLY: Now, you knew that John had two children that he was guardian for?

MR. LALLY: And you were familiar with both his niece and his nephew as well?

MR. LALLY: Now, at some point through Mr. O’Keefe did you come to know somebody by the name of Karen Read?

MR. LALLY: And when about was it that you met Ms. Read?

MR. LALLY: And, if you could, just so we’re clear, do you see Ms. Read in the courtroom today?

MR. LALLY: I’d just ask the record to reflect identification of the defendant by the witness.

MR. LALLY: Now, on some social occasions that you were talking about when you would see them out, would you see —-- would you have occasion to socially interact with Mr. O’Keefe and Ms. Read?

MR. LALLY: Is that something that like you and your husband did together or was it more of a group setting type of thing?

MR. LALLY: And with reference to -- did you have occasions where you would socially hang out or interact with Mr. O’Keefe in which Ms. Read wasn’t there?

MR. LALLY: And had you ever socially interacted or spent time with Ms. Read separate and apart from Mr. O’ Keefe?

MR. LALLY: Now, if I could turn your attention to January 28th, 2022, do you recall that day?

MR. LALLY: And do you recall what day of the week it was?

MR. LALLY: And what, if anything, did you have plans for that particular evening?

MR. LALLY: And by “the night before,” you mean the night before his birthday?

MR. LALLY: And that nephew, what was that nephew’s name?

MR. LALLY: And, if you know, about how old was he turning or how -- well, let me start with this. How old is he now, if you know?

MR. LALLY: So just turned 24 a few months ago?

MR. LALLY: And, so, he would have been turning, what, 22 at that point?

MR. LALLY: Okay. When you say we had plans to sort of go out, who is the “we”?

MR. LALLY: And you mean Brian, Jr.’s friends?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And, so, Brian Albert, Jr. has a mother named Nicole Albert; is that correct?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And how is she sort of -- how is she related to you?

MR. LALLY: So your husband, Christopher, has a brother --

MR. LALLY: -- Brian. Okay. And that would be sort of Brian, Sr. --

MR. LALLY: -- for lack of a better term?

MR. LALLY: Okay. Your husband, Christopher, how many Siblings does he have?

MR. LALLY: And Brian is the oldest; is that correct?

MR. LALLY: And, so, there were plans to go out that evening, the day before Brian Albert, Jr.’s birthday; correct?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And what were the plans? What did they sort of consist of?

MR. LALLY: And is Waterfall -- where is that?

MR. LALLY: And from your husband’s pizza shop, D&E, to the Waterfall, about how far away are the two from each other?

MR. LALLY: Okay. Same side of the street or opposite Sides?

MR. LALLY: Okay. Now, when it came to that day, where did you go? Did you go to the Waterfall first or somewhere else, if you know?

MR. LALLY: And do you know the address where your Sister-in-law and your brother-in-law live?

MR. LALLY: And that was somewhere that you had been numerous occasions before?

MR. LALLY: And, when you arrived at 34 Fairview Road, you went inside the house?

MR. LALLY: And do you know who, if anyone, did you see in there that you knew or recognized or didn’t recognize?

MR. LALLY: Your sister-in-law, Nicole, was she there?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And when you left, I’m using sort of “you” in the plural, so you drove; is that correct?

MR. LALLY: And who, if anyone, went along with you in your car?

MR. LALLY: And, so, your nephew, Brian, for whom you initially made the plans to go out and celebrate, didn’t end up coming?

MR. LALLY: And why was that, if you know?

MR. LALLY: And, if you know, about what time was it that you picked your sister-in-law and your niece up and then went to Waterfall?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And you arrive at the Waterfall. You go in. If you could just explain to the jury sort of when you walk into the door of the Waterfall where was it that the three of you went?

MR. LALLY: Now, from your experience either that evening Or prior evenings, on certain nights does the Waterfall have any kind of sort of entertainment?

MR. LALLY: And, from your recollection, was there a band there that night?

MR. LALLY: And do you recall where you were seated in relation to the band?

MR. LALLY: And when you went there was the band already sort of set up and playing or did that happen later?

MR. LALLY: And, so, initially when you go there, do you go there and just have drinks or did you eat something, or what --

MR. LALLY: And while you were there, as far as -- during sort of the meal portion of it, was there anyone else that joined you?

MR. LALLY: So you recall as far as the meal part was concerned it’s you; your sister-in-law, Nicole; your niece, Caitlin; and her boyfriend, Tristin Morris?

MR. LALLY: And, Mr. Morris, did he stay for any extended period of time, or when was it that he left, if you recall?

MR. LALLY: Now, your husband, was he working on that day?

MR. LALLY: And had you been in communication with him as to where you were going to be?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And, so, the plan was basically for him to meet you at the Waterfall when he was done with work?

MR. LALLY: And, if you know, about what time was it that your husband Christopher came over to the Waterfall?

MR. LALLY: And, again, ma’am, I don’t want you to guess. Just if you know approximate time.

MR. LALLY: Okay. So at sometime around 9:30 or so your husband, Christopher, comes over to the Waterfall?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And what, if anything, did he do when he got there?

MR. LALLY: Let me ask you, when he came in did he get anything to eat, anything to drink?

MR. LALLY: And you and the people in your group, were you drinking that night?

MR. LALLY: And what is it -- do you recall specifically what you had to drink?

MR. LALLY: And your husband, what does he -- do you recall specifically what he had that night?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And that’s sort of typically what he would drink --

MR. LALLY: -- when he was out?

MR. LALLY: And your sister-in-law, Nicole, do you recall what she was drinking?

MR. LALLY: And same question with regard to your niece, Caitlin?

MR. LALLY: Now, while you were there, who, if any -- so after your husband came in, who, if anyone else, sort of came in and joined the group that you were with?

MR. LALLY: And, obviously, you know your brother-in-law, Brian Albert; correct?

MR. LALLY: And do you know --

MR. LALLY: Thank you, Madam Court Reporter.

MR. LALLY: You just have to answer audibly “yes.” So did you know Mr. Higgins as well?

MR. LALLY: And how did you know Mr. Higgins?

MR. LALLY: So you know him just sort of through your brother-in-law, Brian; is that correct?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And do you know when they arrived in relation to when your husband, Christopher, arrived?

MR. LALLY: But some point after; correct?

MR. LALLY: Then after they arrived, who, if anyone else, do you recall sort of arriving and joining in your group?

MR. LALLY: Okay.

MR. LALLY: And, just so we can clear up people, as far as Jennifer McCabe, you already mentioned her. And, Matthew, is that her husband?

MR. LALLY: And the other couple that you were talking about or sort of guessing their names, had you ever met them before?

MR. LALLY: Not anybody that you’re particularly friends with or anything like that?

MR. LALLY: And, when you say sort of sporting events, sporting events in relation to what?

MR. LALLY: And I’m sure it’s probably pretty well understood, but I just want to clarify. So, when you say “sporting events,” these are kids’ sporting events?

MR. LALLY: And, so, which kids’ sporting events would you be at that you would see this couple that you didn’t know very well? Your kids or somebody else’s kids?

MR. LALLY: Okay. So you would go to sporting events for Jennifer McCabe’s kids and see this couple there?

MR. LALLY: And, if you know, about how long after Brian Albert and Mr. Higgins arrived did the McCabes and this other couple arrive?

MR. LALLY: But after Mr. Albert and Mr. Higgins; correct?

MR. LALLY: Okay. Now, you mentioned Mr. O’Keefe and Mr. Read came in at some point as well?

MR. LALLY: And, if you know, about what time was it that Mr. O’ Keefe and Ms. Read came in?

MR. LALLY: And, Your Honor, I’m just going to hold off and let the sirens go by.

MR. LALLY: And, with reference to when Mr. O’ Keefe and the defendant, Ms. Read came into the Waterfall, where were you in relation to sort of the high-top table that you had described?

MR. LALLY: And, when they came in, where did Mr. O’Keefe and the defendant go?

MR. LALLY: And during the time that she stopped at the table to talk for a minute, what, if anything, did she do?

MR. LALLY: And, as far as the drink in the glass, what, if anything, did you observe as far color or anything like that?

MR. LALLY: And the glass that she had, could you see -- so the clear liquid inside it, how much of the glass was full of that?

MR. LALLY: And she placed it on the table; is that correct?

MR. LALLY: And what was your reaction to that?

MR. LALLY: Now, did you know where Mr. O’Keefe and Ms. Read had been coming from prior to them getting to the Waterfall?

MR. LALLY: And where were they coming from?

MR. LALLY: And you’re familiar with that establishment or club?

MR. LALLY: And where is that in relationship to the Waterfall?

MR. LALLY: So on the same side of Washington Street?

MR. LALLY: I’m sorry. On the same side of Washington Street as your husband’s restaurant?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And then the same vicinity from D&E to Waterfall, C.F. McCarthy is to Waterfall?

MR. LALLY: Now, over the course of the evening did you occasion to see Mr. O’ Keefe, if he was at a bar, he had something to drink; is that correct?

MR. LALLY: Sure. Over the course of the evening did you occasion to observe what, if anything, Mr. O’Keefe was drinking?

MR. LALLY: And, so, you left fairly shortly after they arrived?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And, if you know, about how much time are we talking about?

MR. LALLY: And why is it that you left?

MR. LALLY: From the band being so close to you?

MR. LALLY: And when you left where did you go?

MR. LALLY: And, when you got home, as far as your children on that evening, who was home, who was out, if you know?

MR. LALLY: So your oldest son, Christopher, he was in the Navy at that point?

MR. LALLY: And, so, your middle son, Colin, he was out. Did you know where he was?

MR. LALLY: And at some point did you learn that Colin had gone from that person’s house to somewhere else?

MR. LALLY: And is this him communicating with you?

MR. LALLY: And that other place that he went to, do you know where that was?

MR. LALLY: Where?

MR. LALLY: And was that in relation to your nephew and his birthday?

MR. LALLY: Now, while you were -- if I could take your back to the Waterfall just for a second. So while you were at the Waterfall, obviously, you see Mr. O’ Keefe and Ms. Read come in. Do you recall what Mr. O’ Keefe was wearing?

MR. LALLY: And, from your observations, did you ever see him with like a winter coat or a jacket or anything like that?

MR. LALLY: And, with regard to the clothing that you observed him wearing, what, if anything, did you observe as far as the condition of that clothing? And by that I mean, was it torn, was it disheveled, anything like that?

MR. LALLY: And, with regard to Mr. O’Keefe, as far as his appearance, what, if anything, did you observe about him as far injuries or anything like that?

MR. LALLY: Now, with reference to your group as far as at the Waterfall, how would you describe sort of the overall demeanor or tone of the group and what was going on that evening?

MR. LALLY: So, at least during the time that you were there, there were no sort or arguments or disagreements or anything like that?

MR. LALLY: And specifically to Mr. O’Keefe and the defendant, Ms. Read, while you were there during the short time that you were there when they were there, did you observe anything as far as any arguments or disagreements or anything like that?

MR. LALLY: Now, at the time -- so during that time between when they arrived, you mentioned that John went up to the bar; correct?

MR. LALLY: And where did the defendant go?

MR. LALLY: And was it during that period of time that you had enough of the migraine and went home?

MR. LALLY: Now, during the time that you were there and you were speaking with the defendant down sort of your end of the table, what, if anything, was discussed as far as sort of where to go or what to do after the Waterfall?

MR. LALLY: And was that something that you had discussed with Ms. Read either on that date or on a prior day?

MR. LALLY: And was that something that was discussed as a possibility or something that was going to happen that night?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And is that something that she mentioned over the course of that evening once, more than once, or something else?

MR. LALLY: So, when you get home, at some point the rest of your family came home at some point in the evening; correct?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And who came home first, your husband, Christopher, or you son, Colin?

MR. LALLY: And do you know about time that was?

MR. LALLY: So sometime around 12:10?

MR. LALLY: And what, if anything, do you recall specifically about when your husband, Christopher, came home?

MR. LALLY: And your son Colin, had you been in communication with him over the evening?

MR. LALLY: And about how long was it after your husband came home that your son Colin came home?

MR. LALLY: And were you essentially waiting up for him?

MR. LALLY: And is that sort of common practice?

MR. LALLY: And is there another common practice as far as when your kids come home? Where do they go when they first come in?

MR. LALLY: Now, did that happen on this occasion?

MR. LALLY: So Colin came into your room at some point?

MR. LALLY: And, when Colin came into your room and came upstairs, did you have occasion to observe him as far as -- you talked to him obviously?

MR. LALLY: And during that conversation that you had with Colin, same similar to what I had asked you with regard to Mr. O’Keefe, what, if any, injuries or anything did you observe on your son, Colin?

MR. LALLY: And fair to say the next day at some point you talked to and had interaction with your son?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And what, if any, injuries or anything did you observe --

MR. LALLY: -- on him at that time?

MR. LALLY: Now, after your son Colin came home -- and you eventually went to bed; is that right?

MR. LALLY: And turning your attention to the next morning, the Saturday morning, the 29th, about what time was it that you woke up?

MR. LALLY: And, with regard to your nephew, Brian, JUr., whose birthday it was now on the 29th, what, if any, sort of tradition do you have with respect to him and his birthday?

MR. LALLY: And is that what your intention was on this morning as well?

MR. LALLY: And is that what you did on that morning?

MR. LALLY: Now, when you woke up, probably like most people, at some point did you look at your phone?

MR. LALLY: And, when you looked at the screen to your phone, what, if anything, did you see?

MR. LALLY: And was there any sort of notation in regard to the missed call as to what time that missed call had come in?

MR. LALLY: So sometime earlier in the morning?

MR. LALLY: And beyond the missed call, was there any other sort of stamp or notification on the phone as far a voicemail, text message?

MR. LALLY: And not from Ms. McCabe; correct?

MR. LALLY: And not from anybody else?

MR. LALLY: And at any point in time on that morning over the phone did you speak with Ms. McCabe?

MR. LALLY: And did you call her -- so you didn’t call her back or anything like that?

MR. LALLY: And, so, after you wake up, at some point you go Dunkin’ Donuts and get the six donuts?

MR. LALLY: And where did you go with those?

MR. LALLY: And, when you arrived at 34 Fairview, where did you park in relation to the house?

MR. LALLY: And, when you came up to the house, when were driving to the house, at this point what was the weather like at this point?

MR. LALLY: And, with reference to the house, what, if anything, did you notice out of the ordinary with regard to the house or the street or anything else?

MR. LALLY: And, as far as any other vehicles on the street or anything like that, what was going on at that point?

MR. LALLY: So nothing you can recall?

MR. LALLY: About what time was this that you got there?

MR. LALLY: And when you get there, you pull in the driveway, what did you do?

MR. LALLY: And, when you walk into 34 Fairview Road on that morning, who, if anyone, else was there?

MR. LALLY: And where were they in relation to the house?

MR. LALLY: And what, if anything, did they tell you at that time?

MR. LALLY: Go ahead.

MR. LALLY: And after hearing that information, how long were you at your brother and sister-in-law’s house that morning?

MR. LALLY: And where did you go from there?

MR. LALLY: And at some point after you go home and wake up your husband where did you and your husband go?

MR. LALLY: And, so, the second time that you had gone back to Fairview, about how long a period of time were you there that time?

MR. LALLY: And then after that half hour or so, where did you go after that?

MR. LALLY: Now, during either of those occasions when you were at 34 Fairview Road on the morning of the 29th, you had occasion to talk and observe Brian Albert, Sr.; correct?

MR. LALLY: And similar to the questions that I asked you with regard to Mr. O’Keefe and your son Colin, what, if any, injuries or anything out of place did you note with respect to Brian Albert, Sr.?

MR. LALLY: And same question with respect to Mr. Higgins, as far as -- you made observations and spoke at least in the same room as him on that morning?

MR. LALLY: And what, if anything, did you observe as far as injuries or anything else on Mr. Higgins?

MR. LALLY: Now, when you woke up your husband that next morning, your other two sons, being Colin and [REDACTED], they were at home still?

MR. LALLY: And, with regard to when you went to Fairview, came back with your husband, went back to Fairview and then came back again, were they still asleep?

MR. LALLY: Do you recall -- well, let me put it this way. As far as your sons, did they, either of your sons, come back with you to Fairview Road that day?

MR. LALLY: And do you recall whether or not either Colin or [REDACTED] was awake when you left the second time to go to Fairview?

MR. LALLY: Now, at some point a few days after this did you have occasion to meet with a couple of troopers from the state police?

MR. LALLY: When you say “they,” how many of them came to you?

MR. LALLY: And you spoke to them that day in reference to what you had observed at the Waterfall and everything you just testified to?

MR. LALLY: May I have one moment, Your Honor?

MR. LALLY: Just one last question. When you -- Ms. Albert, when you came over to Fairview Road that first time with the donuts, as far as the inside of the house, what, if anything, did you observe as far as the condition of the home or anything about the home that seemed abnormal or out of place or off, you know, from the evening before when you were there?

MR. LALLY: I have nothing further for this witness, Your Honor.