Trial 1 Transcript Sarah Levinson
Trial 1 / Day 11 / May 14, 2024
6 pages · 4 witnesses · 3,052 lines
Caitlin Albert, Tristin Morris, Sarah Levinson, and Julie Nagel testified about the gathering, departures, and observations near 34 Fairview Road.
Sarah Levinson Cross-Examination
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CROSS-EXAMINATION BY MR. YANNETTI:

2 2:31:33

MR. YANNETTI: Good morning, ma'am.

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MS. LEVINSON: Good morning.

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MR. YANNETTI: You have lived in Canton your whole life?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: Graduated from Canton High School?

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MR. YANNETTI: Have been friends with Brian Albert, Jr. since high school?

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MR. YANNETTI: I believe you said it's been probably about 10 years now that you've been friends?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And the two of you actually went to the junior prom together, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: You consider him a close friend?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: You've been to his house many times?

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MR. YANNETTI: You've gone inside the home and you've spent time in the backyard, as well?

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MR. YANNETTI: Gone swimming in the pool that they had in the backyard?

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MR. YANNETTI: And, in high school, you would hang out in their basement, would you not?

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MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And you know there is in that basement a bulkhead door that leads to the backyard, correct?

25 2:32:24

MS. LEVINSON: I never noticed it.

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MR. YANNETTI: You're also on good terms with other members of the Albert family?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: You know his brothers and sisters, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: Caitlin Albert, Brendon Albert, Kayla Albert and Jack Albert?

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MR. YANNETTI: You also know his cousins?

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MS. LEVINSON: It depends which ones, but yes.

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MR. YANNETTI: Some of them?

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MR. YANNETTI: You know that Jennifer McCabe's daughters are Brian Albert, Jr.'s cousins, correct?

37 2:32:53

MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And you know both of Brian Jr.'s parents, Brian Albert, Sr. and Nicole Albert, correct?

39 2:33:01

MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

40 2:33:02

MR. YANNETTI: And you actually call Nicole Albert by her nickname, correct?

41 2:33:07

MS. LEVINSON: Sometimes, yes.

42 2:33:09

MR. YANNETTI: And what is that nickname?

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MR. YANNETTI: And you know Brian Albert, Sr. relatively well, having been over the house so many times, correct?

45 2:33:17

MS. LEVINSON: It depends what you qualify as "well," but yes.

46 2:33:21

MR. YANNETTI: Do you find him a little standoffish?

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MS. LEVINSON: He's quiet.

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MR. YANNETTI: But, in any case, you're comfortable at the Albert home?

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MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And you were at the Albert home on the night of January 28th, going into the 29th of 2022, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

52 2:33:41

MR. YANNETTI: You got there around 8:00 p.m.

53 2:33:43

MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And you didn't leave until around 2:00 a.m., give or take, on the 29th, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: So again, ballpark figures, if you were there from 8:00 p.m. until 2:00 a.m., that means that you spent about six hours at the Albert home that night, into the early morning?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And you, yourself, never left the home during those six hours, correct

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: You were inside the home the entire time?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: Were you interviewed by any police officer, state trooper or other investigator about the events of that night on January 29th of 2022?

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MS. LEVINSON: On that day?

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MR. YANNETTI: Yes. Were you interviewed that day?

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MR. YANNETTI: What about the rest of January or even February of 2022? Were you interviewed by any investigator?

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MR. YANNETTI: The fact of the matter is that no investigator connected with this case took a statement from you in terms of an interview until about nine months later, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And that was done at the district attorney's office on October 21st of 2022?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: Now, that night while you were at the house, you'll agree with me that there were people coming and going from the house the whole night, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: I mean, you would have to be more specific.

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MR. YANNETTI: Okay. So I'm not talking about like every minute on the minute.

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MS. LEVINSON: Uh-huh.

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MR. YANNETTI: But during those six hours, you saw people come and you saw people leave, correct?

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MR. YANNETTI: But you were not standing guard at the door to take note of everyone who was entering or leaving or the times that they were entering or leaving, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: You were not, you know, keeping a log, for instance, of when somebody came in or when somebody left?

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MR. YANNETTI: And, when you got there around 8:00 a.m., you came with your good friend, Julie Nagel, correct?

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MR. YANNETTI: Julie's father dropped you off there?

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MR. YANNETTI: You saw Nicole Albert, Julie Albert, Caitlin Albert and Brian Albert, Jr. when you arrived, right?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: Then Julie Albert, Caitlin Albert and Nicole Albert left, right?

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MR. YANNETTI: But then four other friends of Brian Jr. arrived, right?

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MR. YANNETTI: And you had named them when Mr. Lally was asking you questions before the break, right?

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MS. LEVINSON: Yes. Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: So with those four friends, with you and Julie and Brian, Jr., that meant that at that point there were several people in the house, right?

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MR. YANNETTI: Actually, there were eight people because Caitlin Albert was there, as well, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: It depends on what time you're referring to. But yes.

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MR. YANNETTI: He got dropped of there at some point, right?

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MR. YANNETTI: And then he was one of the eight people, including yourself, that you were with?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: You never saw him walk in the door, did you?

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MS. LEVINSON: I don't remember.

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MR. YANNETTI: You don't remember seeing him actually enter the house, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: But, during the night, you actually sat right next to Colin Albert at the table, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Yes. That is correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And, with regard to Colin Albert, I believe you testified you really wouldn't say he's a friend of yours, right?

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MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: He was more of an acquaintance, was he not?

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MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: Somebody that you met but you didn't hang around with, right?

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MR. YANNETTI: You have never been in a hot tub with Colin Albert, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Not that I know of, no.

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MR. YANNETTI: You never took a trip to Maine with Colin Albert, right?

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MR. LALLY: Objection.

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JUDGE CANNONE: Sustained.

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BY MR. YANNETTI:

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MR. YANNETTI: Because going on a road trip, that would be something that you do with a friend, right?

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MR. LALLY: Objection.

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JUDGE CANNONE: Sustained.

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BY MR. YANNETTI:

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MR. YANNETTI: Okay. And, with regard to those four friends of Brian Jr. who arrived, your best estimate is that they came sometime between 11:00 p.m. and 12:00 a.m., right?

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MS. LEVINSON: I'm sorry. Can you repeat that?

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MR. YANNETTI: Sure. I'm talking about Courtney Alba, Kathryn Doody, Emily Fabbiano and Mary Kent. Strike that. You know what? Let me withdraw that question and rephrase it. They left sometime between 11:00 p.m. and 12:00 a.m.?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: All right. And you can't be sure precisely when they left because, again, you weren't watching the clock to make note of when people made their exits, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: I know they left before it was Brian Jr.'s birthday on the 29th. So I know it was before midnight. But other than that, no.

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MR. YANNETTI: Right. And that's like an hour span of time that they could have left within, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: You never saw Colin Albert physically walk out the door, did you?

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MS. LEVINSON: I don't remember.

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MR. YANNETTI: And then at some point before midnight, Brian Albert, Sr.; Brian Higgins; Nicole Albert; Jennifer McCabe and Caitlin Albert all arrived at the Albert home, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Yes. I don't know if you said Matt McCabe but yes.

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MR. YANNETTI: And Matt McCabe, as well.

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MR. YANNETTI: And you would agree with me that Brian Higgins and Brian Albert arrived at about the same time?

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MR. YANNETTI: And that Caitlin Albert, Jennifer and Matt McCabe and Nicole Albert all came back around the same time?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: Now, from that point until the time that you left around -- and that was around 2:00 a.m., right, give or take?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: From that point until around 2:00 a.m., the only person who left the house was your friend, Julie Nagel, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: Your understanding was that she went outside to talk to her brother, Ryan Nagel, right?

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MS. LEVINSON: Yes. That's correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: All right. And, in addition to not remembering seeing Colin Albert leave, you also did not see Brian Higgins physically leave, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: I don't remember.

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MR. YANNETTI: And you also don't remember seeing Caitlin Albert leave, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: No. I don't remember.

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MR. YANNETTI: You would agree with me that throughout the night while you were at the house, Caitlin Albert was playing music on her phone?

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MR. YANNETTI: There were surround sound speakers set up in the kitchen/dining room area?

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MS. LEVINSON: I don't remember that.

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MR. YANNETTI: But there were speakers, though, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Possibly. I don't remember.

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MR. YANNETTI: So your memory is not that Caitlin Albert had a song or songs playing on her small iPhone, was it?

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MS. LEVINSON: No. It was on a speaker. I'm not sure if it was surround sound or a Bluetooth speaker like it was previously in the night.

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MR. YANNETTI: All right. Fair enough. People were singing and dancing, right?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: Pretty much everybody was singing, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: People were talking?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: Everybody appeared to be in a good mood and having a good time?

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MR. YANNETTI: And, with the music, the singing, the dancing, the talking, the drinking, there was a lot of activity going on in the kitchen/dining room area, correct?

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MR. YANNETTI: There was plenty, you know, to pay attention to with regard to the people that were in that area, right?

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MR. YANNETTI: Brian Jr. was in the kitchen essentially the whole night?

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MR. YANNETTI: Jennifer McCabe was charging her phone on the kitchen island at one point?

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MS. LEVINSON: Behind it, but yes.

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MR. YANNETTI: Did she pick up her phone in your presence to make any calls or text anybody?

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MS. LEVINSON: She picked up her phone. I'm not sure what she did with it.

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MR. YANNETTI: But, in any case, you'd agree with me it was noisy in the kitchen?

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MR. YANNETTI: And the kitchen is in the back of the house?

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MR. YANNETTI: Now, you had seen the Albert family dog, that German Shepherd Chloe, prior to that day, correct?

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MR. YANNETTI: And Chloe was not a very outgoing dog around people, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: In fact, your impression was that she was a former police dog, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Possibly.

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MR. YANNETTI: Right to wrong?

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MS. LEVINSON: Maybe. I don't know.

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MR. YANNETTI: While you were in the kitchen with all of the singing and dancing and talking and music going on, you did not hear Chloe bark, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: You did not hear Chloe growl, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct, not that I remember.

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MR. YANNETTI: You did not hear somebody get hit in the back of the head with anything, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. LALLY: Objection.

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JUDGE CANNONE: Go ahead. You can answer that.

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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BY MR. YANNETTI:

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MR. YANNETTI: And, while you were there, sitting, you could not hear what, if anything, was going on in the basement, correct?

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MR. LALLY: Objection.

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JUDGE CANNONE: Sustained.

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BY MR. YANNETTI:

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MR. YANNETTI: Okay. You were catching a ride home with the McCabes ultimately, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: At that time, you believed that you, Julie Nagel, Jennifer McCabe, and Matt McCabe were the last to leave 34 Fairview?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: So at that time, you believed that Brian Higgins and Caitlin Albert had left before you, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: I believe so.

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MR. YANNETTI: But you didn't see Brian Higgins or Caitlin Albert physically walk out the door? At least you have no memory of that, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And, when you left, you didn't check every room in the house to see who was still there, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: You never went down to the basement that night?

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MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And, when you left 34 Fairview, the snow was starting to stick to the ground at around 2:00 a.m.?

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MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: But there weren't mounds of snow or snowbanks that had formed, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And, when you left the house, you could still see part of the red brick of the walkway that leads to the driveway, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And, when you got to the driveway, you could still see part of the color of the pavement, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Yes. That's correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And you could still see some grass on the front lawn at 2:00 a.m., right?

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MS. LEVINSON: I don't remember, but...

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MR. YANNETTI: If I may have a moment?

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BY MR. YANNETTI:

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MR. YANNETTI: You testified at a hearing on May 11th of 2023, so just about a year ago, in Boston, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And neither the prosecution in this case, Mr. Lally or Ms. McLaughlin, or any of the defense team was there, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: Some other lawyer was asking you questions, right?

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MR. LALLY: Objection.

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JUDGE CANNONE: Sustained. Move along, please.

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BY MR. YANNETTI:

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MR. YANNETTI: You were asked the question, quote, "Could you see the grass sort of on the lawn," and that was when you were leaving. And your answer, "Yes." Do you recall that question and answer?

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MS. LEVINSON: I don't recall that.

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MR. YANNETTI: Okay. If I suggested to you that that was the question and answer, would you dispute it?

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MR. LALLY: Objection.

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JUDGE CANNONE: Sustained.

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BY MR. YANNETTI:

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MR. YANNETTI: Is your memory exhausted as to whether there was that question of you and that answer given?

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MS. LEVINSON: Can you rephrase that?

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MR. YANNETTI: Sure. Do you not remember whether you were asked that question that I just read and the answer that you just gave?

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MS. LEVINSON: I don't remember.

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MR. YANNETTI: Okay. If you saw that transcript, would that refresh your memory?

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MS. LEVINSON: Possibly.

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MR. YANNETTI: Page 187, counsel. May I approach?

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JUDGE CANNONE: Was there an objection? No? Yes, you may.

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MR. YANNETTI: Thank you.

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BY MR. YANNETTI:

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MR. YANNETTI: I'm sorry. I just handed it to you and then took it away. I'm sorry about that. Lines 10 and 11 I would direct your attention to. Just read it silently to yourself, please, and look up at me when you're done.

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MS. LEVINSON: (Witness complies.)

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MR. YANNETTI: If I may approach to grab that?

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BY MR. YANNETTI:

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MR. YANNETTI: Having reviewed that transcript, does that refresh your memory as to what you testified to a year ago?

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MR. YANNETTI: And was that accurate?

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MS. LEVINSON: Yes, with the word being "sort of."

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MR. YANNETTI: Yes. I believe I read the question.

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MS. LEVINSON: Yes. I'm just clarifying. Yes.

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MR. YANNETTI: But I did read it accurately, right?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: Okay. Where was the McCabe's car parked?

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MS. LEVINSON: In the driveway.

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MR. YANNETTI: What other cars did you see in the driveway at that time?

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MS. LEVINSON: I believe the Albert -- by "Albert family," I mean the ones that owned that house.

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MR. YANNETTI: The parents?

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MS. LEVINSON: Yes, correct. Their cars.

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MR. YANNETTI: Do you know how many?

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MR. YANNETTI: And where were those two cars parked? Were there -- strike that. Were there two lanes in the driveway where cars could park?

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MR. YANNETTI: And which lane, to the left or the right, were the Albert cars? Or maybe they were in both.

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MS. LEVINSON: I believe both, closest to the garage.

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MR. YANNETTI: Both. Okay. So they were pulled up closest to the entrance to the garage?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct

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MR. YANNETTI: In tandem, right next to each other?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And where was the McCabe's car? Behind which car?

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MS. LEVINSON: If you're looking at the house, the lane to the left, I believe.

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MR. YANNETTI: Okay. Now, when you first walked out of the Albert home, you'd agree with me that the front lawn was right in front of you, correct?

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MR. YANNETTI: There were no obstructions blocking your view of that front lawn?

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MR. YANNETTI: And there were lights on next to the Albert home front lawn, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And there was also a lamppost where the front walkway is, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And between the two garage doors, there is also a spotlight, is there not?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And you had testified that the snow had started to accumulate, right?

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MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: And against that white snow, did you see a black baseball cap?

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MR. YANNETTI: Did you see a black sneaker?

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MR. YANNETTI: Did you see a six-foot-two, 220-pound man sprawled out right in front of you on that lawn?

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MR. YANNETTI: Did you see 45 pieces of red plastic?

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MR. YANNETTI: One piece of red plastic?

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MR. YANNETTI: So you saw nothing unusual on that front lawn as you walked out of that house, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: As Jennifer McCabe, Matthew McCabe and Julie Nagel were walking toward the McCabe car, none of them pointed to the front lawn to direct your attention to anything, correct?

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MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

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MR. YANNETTI: In fact, you had testified that Matt McCabe forgot something and had to go back in the house, correct?

313 2:49:09

MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

314 2:49:09

MR. YANNETTI: Which means that he actually came out of the house twice that night, correct?

315 2:49:15

MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

316 2:49:15

MR. YANNETTI: And the second time he came out, he still would have been facing that front lawn, correct?

317 2:49:20

MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

318 2:49:21

MR. YANNETTI: And the second time that Matt McCabe came out, he didn't point to anything in the front lawn, correct?

319 2:49:27

MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

320 2:49:28

MR. YANNETTI: And then the four of you were in the McCabe car, right?

321 2:49:32
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MR. YANNETTI: Matt McCabe was driving?

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MR. YANNETTI: Jennifer McCabe was in the front passenger seat next to him?

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326 2:49:40

MR. YANNETTI: Julie Nagel was seated behind the driver, behind Matt McCabe, right?

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MR. YANNETTI: And you were seated in the second row passenger seat to the right?

329 2:49:51
330 2:49:52

MR. YANNETTI: Behind where Jennifer McCabe was sitting?

331 2:49:55
332 2:49:56

MR. YANNETTI: And the car backed out of the driveway, correct?

333 2:49:58
334 2:49:59

MR. YANNETTI: And the rear of the car was then facing towards Cedarcrest?

335 2:50:06

MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

336 2:50:06

MR. YANNETTI: And the front of the car where you were going to drive toward would be toward Chapman Street, correct?

337 2:50:13

MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

338 2:50:13

MR. YANNETTI: Which would have put you driving right past the Albert property line, correct?

339 2:50:18

MS. LEVINSON: Yes. Correct.

340 2:50:19

MR. YANNETTI: And you were closer to that property line than Julie Nagel was, correct?

341 2:50:24

MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

342 2:50:24

MR. YANNETTI: As you drove past?

343 2:50:25
344 2:50:26

MR. YANNETTI: And, as you drove past that front lawn, you saw nothing out of the ordinary, right?

345 2:50:38

MS. LEVINSON: I wasn't looking, but yes.

346 2:50:40

MR. YANNETTI: Okay. And we had previously talked about the fact that you were first interviewed by investigators on October 21st of 2022, right?

347 2:50:54

MS. LEVINSON: Correct.

348 2:50:55

MR. YANNETTI: And the investigator that spoke to you about nine months after January 29th of 2022, you will agree with me was Michael Proctor, correct?

349 2:51:07

MS. LEVINSON: That's correct.

350 2:51:08

MR. YANNETTI: And almost a year after that, you were visited by two female members of the defense team, were you not?

351 2:51:18

MR. LALLY: Objection.

352 2:51:19

JUDGE CANNONE: I'll allow it.

353 2:51:23

MS. LEVINSON: My home was.

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BY MR. YANNETTI:

355 2:51:24

MR. YANNETTI: Okay. Do you recognize Ms. Little seated at counsel table as being one of those two females?

356 2:51:31

JUDGE CANNONE: I'm going to see you at sidebar.

sidebar Attempted Levinson Home Interview
357

(Whereupon, there was a sidebar conference as follows:)

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JUDGE CANNONE: If there was an objection, I have no idea where you are going with this.

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JUDGE CANNONE: What's this?

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MR. YANNETTI: So Ms. Little and a female investigator went to the Levinson home, attempting to interview Sara, and she refused to speak to them.

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JUDGE CANNONE: I think you can leave Ms. Little out of it.

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JUDGE CANNONE: I don't like the lawyers to inject themselves for --

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JUDGE CANNONE: You can just ask her that.

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MR. YANNETTI: Okay. Thank you.

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(Whereupon, the sidebar conference concluded.)

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BY MR. YANNETTI:

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MR. YANNETTI: Is it fair to say, Ms. Levinson, that you decided not to speak to anybody from the defense team?

371 2:52:31

MS. LEVINSON: That is correct.

372 2:52:32

MR. YANNETTI: And you hadn't before you and I just started this discussion, correct?

373 2:52:37

MS. LEVINSON: That is correct.

374 2:52:38

MR. YANNETTI: Nothing further. Thank you, Your Honor.

375 2:52:41

JUDGE CANNONE: All right. Mr. Lally?

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REDIRECT EXAMINATION BY MR. LALLY:

377 2:52:58

MR. LALLY: Ms. Levinson, with regard to the basement at 34 Fairview, when was the last time that you were in the basement area of the home?

378 2:53:11

MS. LEVINSON: Early college. So 2017, maybe.

379 2:53:21

MR. LALLY: That period of time that you were talking about where Ms. McCabe had her phone on the charger and was coming over to check on it, do you recall whether or not Colin Albert was still in the house at that point?

380 2:53:32

MS. LEVINSON: I don't believe so.

381 2:53:34

MR. LALLY: You don't believe he was; is that correct?

382 2:53:36

MS. LEVINSON: That is correct.

383 2:53:38

MR. LALLY: Now, you come out of the house. You were asked some questions about the lawn. The portion of the front lawn that you are talking about as far as you observed, where is that in relation to the driveway?

384 2:53:51

MS. LEVINSON: To the -- well, if you're --

385 2:53:53

MR. LALLY: Let me ask it a different way. So as far as with respect to the front lawn area of the home, what part of the lawn did you make any observations of or did you look at or see when you were walking from the doorway to the vehicle?

386 2:54:10

MS. LEVINSON: When I walked out of the front door, I went down the steps of the stoop and I looked in front of me, like down, not straight. So it would be the grass that borders the front walkway.

387 2:54:36

MR. LALLY: And so you weren't looking at sort of the entirety of the front lawn; is that correct?

388 2:54:42

MS. LEVINSON: That is correct.

389 2:54:43

MR. LALLY: And, when you spoke with Trooper Proctor, was he the only trooper there or the only state police officer there when you spoke with him?

390 2:54:51
391 2:54:53

MR. LALLY: Do you recall who the other trooper was?

392 2:55:00

MS. LEVINSON: I don't remember the name specifically. It was not like a common last name, though. I know that.

393 2:55:10

MR. LALLY: And, as far as defense investigators or anybody else coming to your house, you chose not to speak with them; is that correct?

394 2:55:19

MS. LEVINSON: Correct. I was not home when -- what Mr. Yannetti was talking about. My parents were home. But, out of respect, I contacted the defense to tell them the next day, I believe, that I had nothing to have a conversation with them about.

395 2:55:40

MR. LALLY: And why not?

396 2:55:43

MS. LEVINSON: I know that legally I didn't have to and I didn't have anything to say.

397 2:55:53

MR. LALLY: Nothing further, Your Honor.

398 2:55:55

JUDGE CANNONE: All right. You are all set, Ms. Levinson.

399 2:55:58

MS. LEVINSON: Thank you.

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(Whereupon, the witness is excused.)

401 2:56:04

JUDGE CANNONE: Your next witness, Mr. Lally?

402 2:56:06

MR. LALLY: Yes, Your Honor. The Commonwealth calls Ms. Julie Nagel to the stand.

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