Julie Albert - Cross (Part 1)

MR. YANNETTI: Good afternoon, Miss Albert.

MR. YANNETTI: You and I have never met, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: I just wanted to pick up on a question and an answer that Mr. Lally asked you and that you responded to. He had just asked you whether or not, a few days later, you spoke with a couple of state troopers. Do you recall that question?

MR. YANNETTI: And your answer was yes?

MR. YANNETTI: You would agree with me that it was more than just a few days later, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: It was February 10th of 2022 that two state troopers came to speak with you and your husband Chris, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: And so we're talking about 13 days later, almost two weeks later, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: Prior to February 10th, no investigator from this case bothered to talk to you or your husband, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: Now, in terms of the two investigators who did come, you knew one of them quite well, did you not?

MR. YANNETTI: Okay. When you say you knew them — him, I'm sorry — him?

MR. YANNETTI: And who was it that you knew?

MR. YANNETTI: Michael Proctor was the brother of one of your close friends, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: You're close friends with Courtney Proctor, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: And by the way, your maiden name is Daniels, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: And you have a sister, Jill Daniels, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: : Need a time frame.

MR. YANNETTI: And you would agree that Jill Daniels is also lifelong best friends with Courtney Proctor, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: And in terms of your relationship with Courtney Proctor, you socialize with her, do you not? Do you?

MR. YANNETTI: Go out for drinks with her, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: You've attended parties with her, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: You've also provided child care for her children, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: Miss Albert, you provided child care for Courtney Proctor's children?

MR. YANNETTI: Before January of 2022, did you provide child care for Courtney Proctor's children?

MR. YANNETTI: When?

MR. YANNETTI: 2019, just that one year?

MR. YANNETTI: Okay. After COVID — and during that year of 2019, how often did you watch her children?

MR. YANNETTI: : Move to strike.

MR. YANNETTI: And she had a boy and a girl, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: And Jack and Caroline were Trooper Proctor's niece and nephew, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: The Proctor family entrusted you with the care of their children, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: You know that Michael Proctor is a state trooper, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: You knew that he also was from Canton?

MR. YANNETTI: You knew his wife, Elizabeth Proctor?

MR. YANNETTI: And you were also aware that Courtney Proctor had recommended you to also watch Michael Proctor and Elizabeth Proctor's children, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: But you go back a long way with the Proctor family, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: In fact, you were certainly at her wedding, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: Your son was a ring bearer at that wedding.

MR. YANNETTI: You've spent time at Michael Proctor's childhood home, have you not?

MR. YANNETTI: You've been to the pool at the Proctor's house, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: How many times have you been to the Proctor pool?

MR. YANNETTI: And you've certainly taken your children there as well?

MR. YANNETTI: And you've seen Michael Proctor's mother and father at that pool, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: You've seen Courtney Proctor and her husband at that pool, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: You are very close with Courtney Proctor, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: Well, I guess I'd ask you to define "very close." Do you deny that you were very close with Courtney?

MR. YANNETTI: Do you deny that you were very close with Courtney Proctor?

MR. YANNETTI: Were you aware of that?

MR. YANNETTI: Okay. You talk regularly, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: Text each other, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: You also talk by phone?

MR. YANNETTI: Did you say "very rarely"? You usually talk — it's text? But do you stand by that testimony, that you talk to Courtney Proctor very rarely by phone?

MR. YANNETTI: Let me ask you this. Between February 1st of 2022 and September 6th of 2022, did you only speak rarely with Courtney Proctor?

MR. YANNETTI: Were you using Courtney Proctor as an intermediary to communicate with Michael Proctor about this case?

MR. YANNETTI: Are you aware that between February 1st of 2022 and September 6th of 2022, you and Courtney Proctor spoke by phone 67 times?

MR. YANNETTI: Do you deny that you spoke 67 times?

MR. YANNETTI: Okay. So you don't deny that you spoke 67 times. You still want to maintain your testimony that you only talked very rarely with Courtney Proctor during that time period?

MR. YANNETTI: Well, you know that my client Karen Read was arrested in connection with this case on February 1st of 2022, do you not?

MR. YANNETTI: You spoke to Courtney Proctor that date for 12 minutes by phone, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: May I approach?

MR. YANNETTI: Before I approach, your memory's exhausted as to whether you spoke to Courtney Proctor that day and, if so, how long the two of you spoke?

MR. YANNETTI: Sure. I'm showing you a document with a number of —

MR. YANNETTI: No, I just wanted to point out which one I'm pointing out. So the third — I was going to say a number of lines — the third line down. If you would take a look at that specific date and time and see if that refreshes your memory about whether and how long you spoke to Courtney Proctor on February 1st of 2022. Can you see that, or do you need glasses?

MR. YANNETTI: If you need to borrow them?

MR. YANNETTI: Of course. Thank you.

MR. YANNETTI: It's the third — yeah, third line down.

MR. YANNETTI: Okay, it's a long time ago. Thank you. And you say that having seen this record, it does not refresh your memory that you spoke to Courtney Proctor for —

MR. YANNETTI: Did Courtney Proctor tell you, the day of my client's arrest on February 1st, that she had been discussing the case with her brother?

MR. YANNETTI: This day, did you speak to Courtney Proctor that day in any fashion? What day exactly? The day of my client's arrest, on February 1st, 2022.

MR. YANNETTI: It was —

MR. YANNETTI: Okay. And when you talked to her, did she tell you that she had discussed the case with her brother?

MR. YANNETTI: Were you notified that Karen was going to be arrested?

MR. YANNETTI: What did you discuss?

MR. YANNETTI: The next day, February 2nd of 2022, was the day that my client was arraigned back in Stoughton District Court. Do you recall that?

MR. YANNETTI: You spoke to Courtney Proctor three times that day before my client's publicly televised arraignment at 9:00 a.m., did you not?

MR. YANNETTI: After the arraignment, you spoke to her again for 27 minutes beginning at 10:58 a.m., did you not?

MR. YANNETTI: Okay, so your testimony is — well, strike that. My client's arrest was pretty big news in Massachusetts, wasn't it?

MR. YANNETTI: You were aware that my client had been arrested, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: You were aware that she was being arraigned the very next day, were you not?

MR. YANNETTI: This case involved your family, did it not?

MR. YANNETTI: Well, you knew that John O'Keefe was found dead on your brother-in-law Brian Albert's lawn, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: So necessarily your family was involved in this case, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: And you knew that ultimately you'd probably be talked to by investigators from this case, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: Didn't happen for 13 days, but ultimately they did come, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: All right. So this case had to have been pretty big news within the Albert family, was it not?

MR. YANNETTI: You were discussing it with your husband, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: You were discussing it with your other relatives, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: You were discussing it with your friends, correct?

MR. YANNETTI: So is it your testimony that with all of this going on, you confined your discussions about this case just to your specific family members?

MR. YANNETTI: I mean, clearly you would have talked to Courtney Proctor about this, correct?