Michael Camerano - Direct

MR. LALLY: Yes. Call Mr. Michael Camerano to the stand.

MR. LALLY: Good morning, sir.

MR. LALLY: Could you please state your name and spell your last name for the jury?

MR. LALLY: And where do you live, sir?

MR. LALLY: And how long have you lived in Canton?

MR. LALLY: And that residence you live at, who — And who do you live there with?

MR. LALLY: And what's your wife's name?

MR. LALLY: And how old are your two children?

MR. LALLY: And the 16-year-old, is that a boy or a girl?

MR. LALLY: And your other child, is that a boy or a girl?

MR. LALLY: Now, your wife — how long have the two of you been married?

MR. LALLY: And do you work, sir?

MR. LALLY: What is it that you do for work?

MR. LALLY: And does your wife work as well?

MR. LALLY: And what does she do?

MR. LALLY: If I could turn your attention to January 28th, 2022 — you recall that date, sir?

MR. LALLY: And were you working that day?

MR. LALLY: And do you recall what day the week that was?

MR. LALLY: And following work, what did you do after work?

MR. LALLY: And during the time that you were home, did you speak with anyone, either via phone or text?

MR. LALLY: And with regard to John O'Keefe — how did you know John O'Keefe?

MR. LALLY: And how was it that the two of you met?

MR. LALLY: And the mutual friends through whom you met — who are they?

MR. LALLY: And what are their first names?

MR. LALLY: And starting with Curt Roberts — how do you know Curt Roberts?

MR. LALLY: Where did the two of you grow up?

MR. LALLY: So you've known Curt Roberts most of your life, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: And you mentioned that you have two children. How many children did Mr. O'Keefe have?

MR. LALLY: And those two children — as far as their ages and genders, what were they in relation to your two children?

MR. LALLY: So a 16-year-old girl, 13-year-old son?

MR. LALLY: And were each of your two children friends with Mr. O'Keefe's niece and nephew?

MR. LALLY: Now, as far as friends were concerned — starting with your children and Mr. O'Keefe's niece — how close friends were they?

MR. LALLY: And with reference to your son and John O'Keefe's nephew Patrick — what was sort of the nature of their relationship?

MR. LALLY: And as far as activities — were there any sort of activities your kids did with Patrick and Kaye?

MR. LALLY: And John O'Keefe — how would you describe your relationship?

MR. LALLY: And are you familiar with where Mr. O'Keefe lived?

MR. LALLY: Where did he live?

MR. LALLY: And about how far away is Meadows from where you live?

MR. LALLY: Now, with regard to the girls — and by that I mean your daughter and Kaye — what, if anything, was going on with them on that particular day?

MR. LALLY: And which school was that?

MR. LALLY: Is that a private school?

MR. LALLY: So at the time of this, in January 28th, 2022, what grade was your daughter and Kaylee Furbush?

MR. LALLY: And so this would have been going into ninth grade, or high school, is that right?

MR. LALLY: And was there any conversation you had with Mr. O'Keefe in reference to that?

MR. LALLY: I may approach?

MR. LALLY: I'm directing your attention — showing counsel — I'm showing you the document. Okay. Just as far as specifically, with reference to page — starting on page 18 of that — so I'm going to instruct the jury on this. These are text messages, right?

MR. LALLY: Thank you. I may approach briefly again?

MR. LALLY: Well, I'm sorry — before I do that. Mr. Camerano, do you recognize what's depicted on that page that I just showed you?

MR. LALLY: What do you recognize it to be?

MR. LALLY: And those are the text messages you had back and forth with Mr. O'Keefe on that date of January 28th?

MR. LALLY: I'd move to introduce and admit the —

MR. LALLY: Thank you, Mr. Camerano. Bring your attention back to page 187 of that document. Do you see anything in there listing the participants in a text communication or conversation, on the bottom of the page?

MR. LALLY: And as far as who are listed as the participants in that conversation that comes to follow on the next page —

MR. LALLY: Your wife. And who, if anyone else?

MR. LALLY: And your wife, John. And is your number there as well?

MR. LALLY: So essentially that's a conversation between yourself, your wife Katherine, and John O'Keefe?

MR. LALLY: Now, beyond your memory of that — as far as the numbers that are associated with those names, do you recognize any of those numbers as being yours, your wife's, and John O'Keefe's?

MR. LALLY: Now, sir, if I could ask you to flip the page to the next one — page 188. Your Honor, with the Court's permission, may Miss Gilman publish this to the jury as well?

MR. LALLY: If you could go to page 188. I'm sorry — if you could just — thank you. So, sir, what's up on the screen right now — is that what you have before you as page 188 of Exhibit 48?

MR. LALLY: What's up on the screen — is that what you have before you?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And as far as from these conversations — there are blue bubbles and green bubbles, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: And if you can tell from the content or from anything else on the pages before you — who is communicating in the blue bubble, and who is communicating in the green bubble?

MR. LALLY: So there's a "from" and a "to," is that correct?

MR. LALLY: So the sender would be in the "from" — is that your understanding?

MR. LALLY: So this first one on the top of page 188 — this is from you, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: What, if anything, did you say in this conversation?

MR. LALLY: And what, if anything, are you referring to by that?

MR. LALLY: And, Miss Gilman, if you could just scroll down. And the next bubble — who is that from, and what does it say?

MR. LALLY: And if you could continue to scroll down. And again, from this bubble — who is this from, and what does it say?

MR. LALLY: Is that still in reference to the news regarding Kaye?

MR. LALLY: And, Miss Gilman, if you can scroll down. And again, sir — the next bubble, who is it from, and what does it say?

MR. LALLY: Next green bubble — what, if anything, does that say, and who is it from?

MR. LALLY: And is that your daughter's name?

MR. LALLY: And if you could continue to scroll down. And again, the next bubble — who was it from, what does it say?

MR. LALLY: If you could. And again, the next bubble — who is it from, and what does it say?

MR. LALLY: If you could. And the next?

MR. LALLY: And who was that from?

MR. LALLY: And could you scroll down again? Let's go. And the next bubble, sir?

MR. LALLY: Could you scroll down again, please. And the next bubble, sir — who was it from, what does it say?

MR. LALLY: Could you scroll down again? Thank you. Now, sir, if I could — I may approach?

MR. LALLY: Do we need the lights on?

MR. LALLY: Mr. Camerano, are you able to see without these lights on?

MR. LALLY: Okay. So, sir, I'm going to direct your attention to within the same exhibit, on page 156. So just before we get to that — on this particular day, January 28th, 2022 — where was your wife?

MR. LALLY: And at some point did she go to work on the 28th?

MR. LALLY: And what was her typical work schedule — at that time, what was her typical work schedule with reference to the weekend?

MR. LALLY: And as far as your typical schedule on Friday evenings — what, if anything, was it that you would typically do?

MR. LALLY: And then in reference to that, as far as the weekends are concerned, on Friday — ...evenings in particular, what if any sort of usual thing would you do with reference to Mr. O'Keefe?

MR. LALLY: And with your children, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: With at least one of them if not both of them, so either your son's hanging out with Patrick or your daughter's hanging out with Kaye, typically?

MR. LALLY: Now with reference to what you have before you as page 156 of this exhibit, again towards the bottom — is there an indication as to a conversation starting on the next page as far as who, if anyone, the participants are?

MR. LALLY: Yes. So what I want to direct — bottom of page 156 here, as far as that box at the bottom — what if anything does that indicate as far as the participants in the conversation that continues?

MR. LALLY: And sir, if I could ask you to flip the page over to page 157. And, Your Honor, with your permission, I'd like to publish this part of the conversation to the jury.

MR. LALLY: And so, Mr. Camerano, again — what's up on the screen, is that what you have before you as page 157?

MR. LALLY: And you can look at either whether it's the book in front of you or it's easier to see the screen — either. But with reference to what's up on the screen, first bubble — can you indicate to the jury again who it's from and what it says?

MR. LALLY: And who is Cara?

MR. LALLY: Fair enough. Now with reference — Miss Gilman, if you could scroll down — and the next bubble — um, I'm sorry. May we take the screen down, please? Miss Gilman, turn on the lights, please. Thank you. May I have just a moment with counsel?

MR. LALLY: May I approach to retrieve the exhibit?

MR. LALLY: Just for the record, Your Honor, I would ask at this point to strike whatever — I don't think there was a whole lot done on that page, but whatever that was does not—

MR. LALLY: Directing your attention, Mr. Camerano — what on 157 before you — is that what's up on the screen now?

MR. LALLY: And so, my apologies. With regards to this first bubble on page 157, who is it from and what is it?

MR. LALLY: And with respect to that next blue bubble, who is it from and what is it?

MR. LALLY: And what is the Luce?

MR. LALLY: And if you could scroll down to the next, and again who is it from and what does it say?

MR. LALLY: Could that be at the doctor?

MR. LALLY: And just if you could scroll down to the next, and again who was it from and what?

MR. LALLY: And if you could scroll down to the next, and again who is it from and what did it say?

MR. LALLY: Could you scroll down to the next bubble?

MR. LALLY: The next bubble has no text, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: And now — the next below that green one, again, who is it from and what does it say?

MR. LALLY: And scroll down to the next. Again, that green bubble — who is it from and what does it say?

MR. LALLY: And what is the Hillside?

MR. LALLY: And where is it located?

MR. LALLY: And Miss Gilman, if you could scroll down again — blue bubble on screen, who is that from and what does it say?

MR. LALLY: Scroll down again. That green bubble — from who and what does it say?

MR. LALLY: Scroll down again. And again, the blue bubble on the screen — who is it from?

MR. LALLY: From Johnny. "Okay." Hold on one second, sir, just for the— Background noise Okay. So the next screen bubble — could you answer again, please?

MR. LALLY: Thank you. And Miss Gilman, if you could — one last time — and that's — thank you. Miss Gilman, you can take that down. May I approach just to retrieve?

MR. LALLY: Now, Mr. Camerano, with regard to your statement in the text — "leaving now" — where were you leaving and where were you going?

MR. LALLY: And who, if anyone, was going with you at that time?

MR. LALLY: And if you know, approximately what time did you arrive at Mr. O'Keefe's?

MR. LALLY: Now, through your friendship with Mr. O'Keefe, did you become familiar with a person named Karen Read?

MR. LALLY: And how did you become familiar with her, and who, if anyone, was she to Mr. O'Keefe?

MR. LALLY: And just to be clear, do you see Miss Read in the courtroom today?

MR. LALLY: Can you identify where she's seated or an article of clothing?

MR. LALLY: Now, with regard to Miss Read, prior to that date of January 28, 2022, how long had you known her?

MR. LALLY: Do you recall approximately when you met her?

MR. LALLY: And as far as you were aware, where Mr. O'Keefe lived — did Miss Read live there as well?

MR. LALLY: So she had a house of her own, as far as you knew?

MR. LALLY: And about how often, on a given week, would you see Mr. O'Keefe?

MR. LALLY: And about how often would you see Miss Read?

MR. LALLY: Also. Now, as far as your relationship with Mr. O'Keefe and/or Miss Read — would there be occasions where you would see Mr. O'Keefe without Miss Read?

MR. LALLY: Would there be any occasion where you would see Miss Read without Mr. O'Keefe?

MR. LALLY: And where would that be?

MR. LALLY: Now, with reference to their relationship, what if any conversation did you have with Mr. O'Keefe in regard to his relationship with Miss Read?

MR. LALLY: In the time period around — say the weeks leading up to January 28th, 2022 — what if any conversations do you recall having with Mr. O'Keefe in regard to his relationship with Miss Read?

MR. LALLY: Anything specific that you can recall?

MR. LALLY: Now, when you arrived at the house — or, typically, when you would come over to Mr. O'Keefe's house, where is it that you would park?

MR. LALLY: And is that what you did on this particular day?

MR. LALLY: When you arrived at the house, where did you go?

MR. LALLY: Yourself and your daughter?

MR. LALLY: And when you got in there, who, if anyone, was at the house at that time?

MR. LALLY: And what is it that occurred while you were in the house?

MR. LALLY: And at some point, did yourself and Mr. O'Keefe make plans to leave the house?

MR. LALLY: And where did you go?

MR. LALLY: Is that C.F. McCarthy's?

MR. LALLY: Is that an establishment — where is that?

MR. LALLY: And about how far away from Mr. O'Keefe's house is that?

MR. LALLY: Is that somewhere that you're familiar with, you've been before?

MR. LALLY: Now, with regard to — do you know approximately what time you left Mr. O'Keefe's house and went to C.F. McCarthy's?

MR. LALLY: And where were the girls when the two of you went to C.F. McCarthy's?

MR. LALLY: And at the time that you left there and went to C.F. McCarthy's, if anyone else — were there any plans as far as meeting anybody else there?

MR. LALLY: Now, prior to leaving the house, what if anything did you or Mr. O'Keefe— O'Keefe do with reference to uh the vehicles that were in the driveway?

MR. LALLY: I'm sorry, you said because of the what now?

MR. LALLY: And as far as uh the snowstorm was concerned, what if anything did you know uh at that point in regard to that?

MR. LALLY: Now with the Court's permission, I would ask uh that Miss Gilman be allowed to publish a part of Exhibit 6, which is the driveway of the Ring video.

MR. LALLY: And if I could ask for uh video number 145. Sorry. If you could pause it like that. Can you recognize what's up on the screen?

MR. LALLY: And what do you recognize that to be?

MR. LALLY: And as far as -- may I approach the witness?

MR. LALLY: Before you use this -- this is a laser pointer, just press that button. Okay. And Mr. Camerano, using that laser pointer that uh you now have with you, if you could uh direct the jury's attention to where in this video you observe yourself and your daughter. And uh there are two vehicles in this uh sort of frame, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: And if you could, using the laser pointer, just describe to the jury whose car is whose and where it is.

MR. LALLY: Now as far as um the Ring system that Mr. O'Keefe had at his house at this time, um as far as your knowledge of it, uh what if anything would the two of you do with reference to sort of picking up or dropping off kids in the Ring video?

MR. LALLY: And do you know how he was watching, if he wasn't home?

MR. LALLY: So would that be sort of a running joke between the two of you?

MR. LALLY: Miss Gilman, if you could just pause it there. Now, Mr. Camerano, are you familiar with Mr. O'Keefe's house?

MR. LALLY: Correct?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And with reference to um sort of where you and your daughter sort of exited uh from the screen, what if any sort of entrances to the home were located in that area?

MR. LALLY: And are you familiar with that garage area?

MR. LALLY: Is that typically how you would enter the house?

MR. LALLY: And with regard to sort of the condition of the garage, was Mr. O'Keefe particular about that?

MR. LALLY: And how so?

MR. LALLY: And so as far as the garage doors -- and what I mean by garage doors is sort of electronic, up -- you know, up and down -- so there's two garage doors that go up and down, and there's a door, just a single entry door on the left. As far as the left, there was an old classic car, he had a convertible. And then as far as the right door, it was empty. And um, once beyond those sort of bay doors that would go up and down, what if any other entranceway into the garage was there?

MR. LALLY: And if you recall, when you were entering uh at that time on the 28th with your daughter, uh how did you enter in?

MR. LALLY: And uh was that something -- um what if anything was uh fixed to those garage doors as far as security?

MR. LALLY: And uh at the time, or at any time, were you familiar with what that passcode was?

MR. LALLY: Now when you walk into the garage, uh how is it that you get from the garage to the house?

MR. LALLY: And then once you sort of walk up the three steps and going into the door, what part of the house are you in?

MR. LALLY: And you mentioned that Mr. O'Keefe was meticulous, if not OCD, when it came to the garage. How did that relate to how he kept the house?

MR. LALLY: And as far as shoes were concerned, is that something that you wore inside the house or not?

MR. LALLY: And that was pretty well known to people that had been there before, correct?

MR. LALLY: Now, Miss Gilman, from the same exhibit, if I could -- um, actually, I'm sorry. Um, with regard to the next video that's not contained on this exhibit, from the same Ring video, I would offer that at this time as the next exhibit.

MR. LALLY: Thank you, Your Honor. For the record, this would relate to Exhibit 6 and it's video number 148. And Mr. Camerano, with the Court's permission, may I publish this for the jury?

MR. LALLY: What was just up on the video, sir -- it's up on the screen as video number 148. Uh, that was what you testified to previously as far as moving the cars, correct?

MR. LALLY: And why was that again?

MR. LALLY: So the expectation from your understanding, Karen Read was coming back to the house of [unintelligible] later on that evening, correct? As shown in this clip from that video on the screen, he was walking to the car. Did you happen to notice how he was dressed?

MR. LALLY: And as far as what you observe in that video, what you recall from that evening, is that how he was dressed that evening?

MR. LALLY: And when I say how he was dressed, for sort of the entirety of the time that you were with him?

MR. LALLY: Um, so it's January 28th, you recall you indicated there was a snowstorm coming, it was cold out, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: And with reference to that, was Mr. O'Keefe someone that would typically wear a coat?

MR. LALLY: And ever that you can recall?

MR. LALLY: And, Your Honor, with the Court's permission, with reference to uh that same Exhibit 6, uh if I could publish uh video number 149.

MR. LALLY: So from that video, Mr. Camerano, what is it that you and Mr. O'Keefe are doing in that video?

MR. LALLY: Um, thank you. Now, at some point after you arrived at CF McCarthy's, who if anyone else sort of joins your group?

MR. LALLY: And that'd be Curt Roberts, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: And uh how was it that he came to CF McCarthy's that night?

MR. LALLY: And uh in general terms, what would you call -- sort of what was that text communication like between yourself and Mr. Roberts?

MR. LALLY: And following that text, did Mr. Roberts uh eventually arrive at CF McCarthy's?

MR. LALLY: And about how long after you and Mr. O'Keefe arrived did Curt show up?

MR. LALLY: And if you know, uh, at some point you indicated Miss Read appeared at CF McCarthy's as well, correct?

MR. LALLY: And do you know about how long after yourself and John arrived that Miss Read appeared?

MR. LALLY: Now with reference to um that establishment of CF McCarthy's, are you aware, or have you become aware, that there was a surveillance video from inside the bar that night?

MR. LALLY: You've seen some of that footage, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: Your Honor, may I approach?

MR. LALLY: I want to introduce and admit uh the surveillance video for CF McCarthy's as the next exhibit.

MR. LALLY: With the Court's permission, I would seek to publish portions of that video uh for the jury at this time.

MR. LALLY: And Miss Gilman, if you could, from that video, uh the first clip -- if I could ask you to play from about 7 minutes and 40 seconds, and we'll go through about 9 minutes or so. If you could pause it just now. Do you recognize what's up on the screen, Mr. Camerano?

MR. LALLY: And what do you recognize that to be specifically?

MR. LALLY: And uh yourself and Mr. O'Keefe are not in frame at this time, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: Uh, if you could -- using the laser pointer, uh, before you do so, if you could direct the jury's attention to where it was about -- in reference to the bar -- uh that you and Mr. O'Keefe eventually came to congregate.

MR. LALLY: And from this video, uh, from your time there that night or prior occasions, uh can you see sort of where the front door is to the establishment?

MR. LALLY: Could you direct the jury's attention to where that is? And so what I'm going to ask uh in just a moment is for Miss Gilman to press play, and then what I'd ask you to do is if you could uh just uh direct the jury's attention to when, if at all, you observe yourself and Mr. O'Keefe walking in. Okay, Miss Gilman, if you could -- let me -- Miss Gilman, if you could pause it right there. And just I'm sorry, Mr. Camerano, you're directing with the laser pointer at the screen — if you could just describe what you're directing?

MR. LALLY: Thanks. If you could just again play this through the 9 minutes — For the record, I think we're at about 9 minutes and 41 seconds or so.

MR. LALLY: So, with reference to CF McCarthy's, you went there, had some drinks, correct?

MR. LALLY: Do you recall what you were drinking, or what John was drinking that night?

MR. LALLY: Is that sort of typical for the two of you?

MR. LALLY: You recall, sort of — was that from the tap, or a bottle, or something else?

MR. LALLY: And do you recall what type of beer typically you would drink, or Mr. O'Keefe would drink?

MR. LALLY: And do you recall specifically that's what you had that night, or that's just what you typically have?

MR. LALLY: And if you know, approximately how many beers or how many drinks did you have over the course of your time at CF McCarthy's?

MR. LALLY: As far as yourself versus Mr. O'Keefe, you recall sort of in relation to each other how much you each had to drink?

MR. LALLY: And what I'm asking, sir, is it's not like did one of you have ten and one of you had two, or was it sort of commensurate with each other?

MR. LALLY: So essentially you're buying rounds as you go along?

MR. LALLY: Now, from your time at CF McCarthy's, how would you describe sort of the tone, or the demeanor within the group that you —

MR. LALLY: So no arguments, no fighting, anything like that?

MR. LALLY: And just briefly going back to the clothing that you observed Mr. O'Keefe wearing — in this [video] and that you recall him wearing that night — what if any damage or tears or anything like that did you note in any of his clothing that night?

MR. LALLY: Now, Miss Gilman, if I could ask you to take this down and go to the third video. And Miss Gilman, if I could direct your attention to the 6 minute and 10 second mark through the 7 minute mark, and when you get to 6:10 if you can start it. Now, Mr. Camerano, I'm directing your attention to the screen — if you could — — from the parties within your group that night at the bar, if you could just direct the jury's attention to who is who, or who if anyone you recognize.

MR. LALLY: So in addition to yourself and Mr. O'Keefe, Mr. Roberts has now joined your group, correct?

MR. LALLY: And Miss Gilman, if you could just play it — if you could pause that, please. Now, with reference to Mr. Roberts, was Curt a beer drinker as well?

MR. LALLY: From a bottle that night, same sort of thing that yourself and Mr. O'Keefe were having?

MR. LALLY: And from where it's paused at this point in the video, does anyone else — do you recognize anyone coming into frame or coming to join your —

MR. LALLY: And so from this, is this about the time that she entered the establishment, or came into the bar?

MR. LALLY: Now, with reference to Miss Read, what if anything do you recall her drinking during your time that you were both at CF McCarthy's that night?

MR. LALLY: And if you know, what if anything did you observe as far as the color of what was in the glass?

MR. LALLY: And beyond sort of the clear liquid in the glass, what if anything else did you observe in the glass, as far as a straw or fruit, anything like that?

MR. LALLY: And what if anything — did you know what was in the —

MR. LALLY: As far as you could tell, what was in the glass?

MR. LALLY: Is that something that Miss Read would typically drink, if you had been out with her on prior occasions?

MR. LALLY: Now, I'm sorry to keep jumping back and forth, but — Miss Gilman, if you could just hit play again and run — let it run, excuse me, to the seven minute mark. Miss Gilman, from this same third video in this exhibit of CF McCarthy's, if I could ask you to forward to the 14 minute mark, pause it. And if you could, I would ask that you play this from the 14 minute mark until about 14 minutes and 15 seconds — just about 15 seconds. And Miss Gilman, you can take that down. Now, Mr. Camerano, you indicated that your son was at Luce Elementary School for a play of some sort, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: And from there, where if anywhere else did he go that night?

MR. LALLY: Skate as far as just skating, or what if anything else?

MR. LALLY: Well, let me ask you this — was he a hockey player?

MR. LALLY: Okay, so when you say skating — skating?

MR. LALLY: Okay. And at some point, with relation to that, what if anything caused you to leave CF McCarthy's on that night?

MR. LALLY: And so upon receiving that call, where did you go?

MR. LALLY: And do you recall about what time that was that you left CF McCarthy's to go get him?

MR. LALLY: Now, from the group that you were with — as far as yourself, Mr. O'Keefe, Miss Read, and Mr. Roberts — who if anyone left first?

MR. LALLY: And do you recall sort of how it was that Curt left?

MR. LALLY: So sort of an Irish goodbye?

MR. LALLY: Is that something he's known for?

MR. LALLY: And about when was that in relation to when you left?

MR. LALLY: Now, with the Court's permission, Your Honor, I'd just like to publish more segments.

MR. LALLY: So, Miss Gilman, if I can direct your attention to the fourth video, one down — and if I could ask you to forward it to about 19 minutes and 40 seconds. Miss Gilman, if I could ask you to just pause it there for one second. Now, Mr. Camerano, from looking at this surveillance video here, or from your memory of that night, you see Mr. O'Keefe speaking to another gentleman, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: You know who that person is?

MR. LALLY: And who is that —

MR. LALLY: And do you know his first name, or anything beyond just "Sully"?

MR. LALLY: And how is it that you know him?

MR. LALLY: So in addition to your son playing baseball with Mr. O'Keefe's nephew, Mr. Roberts — does he have a son around the same age?

MR. LALLY: And this individual Sully, he has a child that plays baseball with the three of your kids?

MR. LALLY: Is that someone that you had contacted to meet there, or he just happened to be there?

MR. LALLY: If you could just hit play again and just run to about the 20 — — minute mark. Now, Miss Gilman, if you could move that forward again to 24 minutes and 10 seconds, and if you could just let this run until about 24 minutes and 20 seconds — so just about 10 — — seconds. And so, Mr. Camerano, did you see yourself in that portion of the video?

MR. LALLY: And you know what you were doing at that time?

MR. LALLY: And so prior to leaving, had you sort of settled up a tab or something?

MR. LALLY: And then you left and went to get your son, correct?

MR. LALLY: Miss Gilman, you can take that down, please. Now, Mr. Camerano, you left there and went to pick up your son, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: And following picking up your son, where did you go from there?

MR. LALLY: And why did you go back to John's house?

MR. LALLY: You went to pick up the daughter, correct?

MR. LALLY: And you recall approximately what time that —

MR. LALLY: And when you came back to the residence at 1 Meadows, you parked on the driveway again, correct?

MR. LALLY: And did you physically sort of go in the house to pick up your daughter?

MR. LALLY: Now, from the time that you left with Mr. O'Keefe to go to CF McCarthy's versus the time that you came back, anything change as far as position of Mr. O'Keefe's car?

MR. LALLY: What if anything did you note as far as the garage doors were concerned, or any damage or anything like that?

MR. LALLY: And with the Court's permission, I would seek to just publish another video or two from Exhibit — — 6.

MR. LALLY: And at this time, Miss Gilman, if I could have from the driveway again — video 152. Now, from that video 152 that was just up on screen, Mr. Camerano, could you describe for the jury — excuse me — just sort of what was going on in that video?

MR. LALLY: And where did you go from there?

MR. LALLY: And when you got home — well, let me ask you this first. During the time that you were at CF McCarthy's, you obviously — at some point you didn't do an Irish goodbye?

MR. LALLY: So at some point you indicated to Mr. O'Keefe and/or Miss Read — that you were leaving to go pick up your son?

MR. LALLY: And what, if any, indication did they give to you as far as where they were going or what were their intentions for the rest of the evening?

MR. LALLY: And when you say "across the street," what if anything was across the street?

MR. LALLY: Waterfall?

MR. LALLY: You familiar with that establishment as well?

MR. LALLY: Where is that in relation to CF McCarthy's?

MR. LALLY: Walking distance, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: And you leave, you get your son, you pick up your daughter at John's house, and then you go home, correct?

MR. LALLY: And when you get home, about how much longer were you up before you went to bed?

MR. LALLY: And when you typically go to bed, what if anything do you do with your phone?

MR. LALLY: Where's the charger located?

MR. LALLY: And following — to the next day — about what time is it that you wake up on the 29th?

MR. LALLY: And what was it that woke you up?

MR. LALLY: And how many phones do you have?

MR. LALLY: Essentially one personal, one work, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: Were both phones ringing, or one of the other?

MR. LALLY: Was that your work or your personal?

MR. LALLY: And you get up, you hear that, you look at your phone — what if anything do you see on the screen?

MR. LALLY: And when you say missed calls, we're talking about one call, several calls?

MR. LALLY: Any voicemails that you recall associated with those calls?

MR. LALLY: So based on making that observation of the missed calls, what do you do?

MR. LALLY: And what if anything did you learn from your wife?

MR. LALLY: So Mr. Camerano, you call your wife, and what if anything — in general — does she tell you?

MR. LALLY: And she's still at work at this point, is that correct?

MR. LALLY: Did she indicate to you how she came to find that out?

MR. LALLY: information, what is it that you do next?

MR. LALLY: And then based on that, you have a conversation with your wife about John's niece and nephew, is that right?

MR. LALLY: So at that time your wife tells you that Kay is home at Meadows by herself?

MR. LALLY: And so based on that —

MR. LALLY: When you say "clean the car off real quick," what if anything did you have to clean off?

MR. LALLY: And again, you drive over to John's house to get Kay, correct?

MR. LALLY: And when you get there, pulling in the driveway as well?

MR. LALLY: And when you get to John's house and you pull in the driveway, what if anything did you observe about the condition of the garage doors?

MR. LALLY: Which one — the one to the right or the left?

MR. LALLY: And you go inside that door?

MR. LALLY: What if anything did you do once you went inside?

MR. LALLY: And so you start clearing the snow with the shovel?

MR. LALLY: Yes. And after you had cleared some of the snow with the shovel, what did you do with regard to the doors at that point?

MR. LALLY: And at some point, how did you get the —

MR. LALLY: Now, when you arrived at the residence and you pulled into the driveway, do you recall how many vehicles were in the driveway when you got there?

MR. LALLY: And how many?

MR. LALLY: And whose vehicles were those?

MR. LALLY: And John's vehicle — where was that in relation to the last time that you saw it when you picked up your daughter?

MR. LALLY: And as far as the defendant Miss Read's vehicle, where was that in relation to the garage or in relation to the driveway?

MR. LALLY: Correct. And at that time, did you look at the vehicle or touch the vehicle in any way?

MR. LALLY: Better to say that your focus was on the garage door and the fact that it was open, correct?