Procedural - Motions
50 linesMR. BRENNAN: ...to consolidate. Instead of having 50 of these things, I try to make them more limited. We did use more updated software. The only difference is it shows emojis. In addition, we took the phone calls and the emails — or the text messages — which was presented at the last trial. Content has not changed. We just put it in a PowerPoint so that when it's read, instead of just reading the text messages and then searching for the phone calls where Trooper Guarino would then refer to a separate document, they're simply in order.
MR. BRENNAN: There is a presentation of a different PowerPoint which is from the old data — 2023 — but it is information that was not introduced at the last trial, although it was clearly provided to the defense in advance, and what it is — it's healthcare data of the defendant's watch and — pardon me — Jennifer McCabe's watch, and what it does is it tracks her heart rate from midnight all the way through the next morning. Now, although that information was available to the defense, they could have done what they wanted with it, that information was never put in a PowerPoint presentation. I will not and do not expect Trooper Guarino to talk about it during his testimony. He's a witness. I'm going to ask the court to recall. The reason I turned that over was to be transparent and to be collegial.
MR. BRENNAN: We would not introduce it on direct, but as your honor ordered, there was an order not to get into third party culprit evidence. Jennifer McCabe was never identified as a third party culprit. Yet, in the opening, the defense suggested something about 2:27. If the defense is to cross-examine or suggest that a phone call occurred at 2:27, this would be to rebut that information. I could have waited until after the cross-examination and then sprung this as a surprise upon the defense, because it is powerful evidence showing her heart rate is inconsistent with being in a criminal conspiracy. Yet we provided it in advance so they'd have notice days before Trooper Guarino would even testify about it.
JUDGE CANNONE: So the PowerPoints that were provided last night — you don't intend to use either one of those in your—
MR. BRENNAN: The presentation I would, regarding the text messages and phone calls. At the last trial, Trooper Guarino read the text messages from the screen and at the same time he would look at the phone calls and he would go back and forth between the papers. This is simply putting the phone calls with the text messages in the chronological order so that on the screen, rather than reading text messages and then referring to the phone calls and stating there was a phone call, it can simply be shown on the screen.
JUDGE CANNONE: What do you say about that, Miss Little?
MS. LITTLE: It's content you had — it's messages that came in at the last trial. The problem, your honor, is this is not from a cell report. It's been individually — I need to see it. I need to take a look at this.
JUDGE CANNONE: Do you have an extra copy for me, Mr. Brennan?
MR. BRENNAN: I can provide a copy.
JUDGE CANNONE: So, Trooper Guarino is not going to be your next witness after Miss Roberts, is he?
MR. BRENNAN: It's going to be Peggy O'Keefe and then it would be Trooper Guarino. As I said, I can recall him and I expect to, because there are a number of other events if it becomes an issue. I can call him to authenticate the phones that we'll need for our further witnesses, which is Ian Whiffin and Jessica Hyde. And then I can simply recall him. I don't need to read these to the jury today. But there's nothing new in it. There's nothing surprising, but I will make this as easy as possible for everyone.
JUDGE CANNONE: All right. I'd like to be able to take a look at this. I'd like the defense to take a look at it. You're right, Miss Little. You're entitled to be able to spend some time looking at what the Commonwealth intends to put into evidence today. So I just took — I guess Mr. Lally's copy. So if you can get me — Mr. Clerk, would you give this back to Mr. —
MR. BRENNAN: He'll — he's really being called to authenticate documents.
JUDGE CANNONE: Okay. The defense may have other plans for him. There's no need to introduce any of this today through Trooper Guarino. Okay.
MR. BRENNAN: He will be not only a fact witness for downloading and authenticating, but he is essentially our reader. I can bring him back a day. I can bring him back in two days. It really doesn't matter. I don't want to deprive the defense of time to review.
JUDGE CANNONE: Okay. And so, whatever time they need, I'll defer. Okay. So that's what we're going to do. Thank you. All right. And Miss Little, if you can take a look at them by tomorrow and let me know if you have any objections tomorrow. Does that give you enough time?
MS. LITTLE: Yes. Thank you.
JUDGE CANNONE: Okay. All right. Was there anything else before we started?
MR. BRENNAN: Not for the Commonwealth. Thank you.
ATTY.: Your honor, I did email Mr. McDermott yesterday evening. He did speak with Dr. [unintelligible] yesterday and he is not available on Friday. Is there another day that works for the court reasonably soon that we can have them come in?
JUDGE CANNONE: We could do it tomorrow afternoon if tomorrow is a better day for him. Yeah, they're just in Pennsylvania, right? Could we do a Zoom hearing tomorrow?
MR. ALESSI: No, he needs to be here in person.
JUDGE CANNONE: Mr. Alessi, I issued an order late yesterday. You were the one yesterday talking about this voir dire. I assume that you folks provided that order to the ARCCA witnesses.
MR. ALESSI: We don't have an address to serve them. We don't have enough time. I provided a copy.
JUDGE CANNONE: All right. So we could do tomorrow afternoon. We have to make travel arrangements for them to get here.
MS. LITTLE: Yes. He has a conflict that begins on Thursday and goes until Friday. Is there a day next week that works for—
JUDGE CANNONE: Well, we could do Monday, but what I'm going to order is, if it's continued all the way until Monday, the testing that he outlined that they were contemplating — we're going to do that — that has to be done by then. So we can do it Monday, but that testing has to be done by then.
MS. LITTLE: Okay. We'll make every effort to make that happen. I don't have a status on some of the shipping components that they need for the testing, and some — we'll do the work.
JUDGE CANNONE: All right. So that'll be done by Monday. We'll do this Monday. I don't want to devote a whole day — I mean, Friday was easy to devote a whole day because the jury thought they were only going to be here a half a day. Can we do this just in the afternoon?
MR. BRENNAN: Your honor, I am unclear as to what the subject matter of the voir dire is going to be. So I am indifferent to this voir dire.
JUDGE CANNONE: All right. I'm just trying to help you out by having the witnesses here, because I found a violation of your reciprocal discovery. So I don't know how long this is going to go. I would assume I'm giving you the opportunity to put them on, and the Commonwealth an opportunity to cross-examine them. First, in terms of time, we can do it within a half a day. All right. Do you agree with that, Mr. Brennan? Regarding an afternoon voir dire of ARCCA on Monday.
MR. BRENNAN: Yes. We'll defer to the court whenever is available. I mean, I'd like to keep the testimony going. I've already told the jurors that they have a half a day Friday. So Friday we'll be back to where we were at the half a day.
MR. ALESSI: Will we have a chance to be heard on rulings regarding ARCCA? I still have the same concern about new information.
JUDGE CANNONE: Yes. What do you mean? When?
MR. ALESSI: Whenever it's convenient for the court, but I have concerns about these witnesses bringing in new opinions that we will not have an opportunity to consider.
JUDGE CANNONE: All right. Can we do that the day of the voir dire?
MR. ALESSI: Whenever it's good for the court.
JUDGE CANNONE: All right. So maybe we'll break with the jury at 12 on Monday. They're going to have two half days in a row, but we'll break. Will we still do the voir dire, and I'll have witness testimony prepared for Friday? Yes.
ATTY.: Okay, your honor, may I have one further follow-up question, please? Yes.
JUDGE CANNONE: Thank you. The reason I asked for — and I appreciate the opportunity for the voir dire. It's not lost on me. But what I'm trying to understand is I want to hit the target. Whatever the target of the— So one of the targets, one of the big concerns I have is that 105 or more text messages were deleted. And you said "in due course." I have no idea what you mean by "in due course." It's a pending case.
JUDGE CANNONE: We need to figure out — I need to figure out that at least. And—
ATTY.: Okay. And your honor, the 30-day — if you may recall, we — the defense had this very same issue with a matter with District Attorney Morrissey. So you said, "I'm unclear what the deletions are, and we're happy to have testimony — witnesses to discuss it." They're to bring them if they still have them. Exactly. That is also very helpful. But this 30-day auto-delete — a lot of attorneys do that. District Attorney Morrissey did that. I need something in writing about that. That's not my understanding on how you keep records in a pending case. And remember, you still said out of the blue months— later, a bill came. This gives me pause about that, frankly.
JUDGE CANNONE: Okay. As well, your honor.
JUDGE CANNONE: All right. All right. So, clarification. All right. And there'll be more. I'm not limiting it to that, but those are my big concerns. Appreciate it. All right. Are we ready to start?
UNKNOWN: I just— So, let's figure that out. Um, do you— You know what? Let's see. Counsel at sidebar. All right. So, are we ready to bring Ms. Roberts back in?
UNKNOWN: Ready, your honor.
COURT OFFICER: I can take 5 minutes while we line the jury up if you want.
JUDGE CANNONE: Okay. All right.
PARENTHETICAL: [unidentified]
JUDGE CANNONE: : Do you want me to get off?